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Guy Daniels, TelecomTV (00:05):
Joining me now is Andreas Schaller who is head of V2X technology strategy at Bosch Mobility. Andreas, thank you very much for talking with TelecomTV. Can I start by asking you about the role of Bosch within the connected mobility sector?
Andreas Schaller, Bosch (00:21):
So as a global Tier one, Bosch is also active in connectivity as its cinematic units, but of course it's also services for fleets and for passenger cars. So it's a wide fuel of different software, hardware and service activity.
Guy Daniels, TelecomTV (00:41):
And can I ask about your role with 5Gaa? How important is the work that 5GAA does and how does it align with your objectives?
Andreas Schaller, Bosch (00:49):
I mean, we joined 5GAA in 2017 and it's an important thing for tier one is they would like to get to sell common solution to different OEMs now to widen the market. So you would like to somehow increase your market share and though it's important that we generate this common roadmap that we get a little bit of a agreement between the OEM on the technologies they would like to use. And this is the reason why I'm also heading with BMW and Volkswagen, the awoke map activities because the interest is really to focus on the use cases and the technology. We need for the future.
Guy Daniels, TelecomTV (01:36):
Now 5G is still in its infancy really in terms of deployments and the specification work. There's more to come with 5G, but where 5G is today, what does it offer for the connected mobility sector? What solutions are possible today?
Andreas Schaller, Bosch (01:53):
So as you just said, so the standardization is done for consumer devices and it's always a little bit faster. So at the moment, if you look at the vehicles worldwide, they all are based on 3GPP release 15. So first standardization of 5G. So this is broadband scenarios. So you use it for entertainment, you use it for TV operations, you use it for automatic valet parking for example. You use it for support of AD level three, parking by maps update. These are typically example, we use it at the moment.
Guy Daniels, TelecomTV (02:35):
And as the 3GPP and other associations work through advancing the specifications, we get more specifications included in 5G. Let's look ahead maybe five years or so. What sort of solutions are going to be possible then in this sector?
Andreas Schaller, Bosch (02:52):
So as I said, we are now at Release 15 is implemented, Release 16 is actually why we are here at this event. So with 5G-V2X the first chip sets, now we are showing the capabilities of 5G-V2X with Release 16. So Release 17 and 18 then will be dedicated to non-terrestrial network support. So this is something which is getting speed up very quickly. At the moment we see many announcement of different satellite players. So in the automotive industry this will come with Release 17 and 18. And then finally you have Release 19 to sum 5G up before 6G restart.
Guy Daniels, TelecomTV (03:41):
Now you spoke today at the event here in Berlin on a panel that was looking at how you leverage 5G-V2X to enable new advanced services and solutions. What was the consensus there? What's your advice? How can we achieve our aims here?
Andreas Schaller, Bosch (03:58):
Yeah, so what I had in the panel, I had to talk about V2X and ADAS and what I did is I started with Euro Ncap and I said that there were different categories like safe driving, supporting information to the driver, increasing awareness of the driver, and finally sending warnings to the driver that the vehicle takes an action. So maybe it breaks. So that's a far future. But the first information and awareness is really what we saw today by different OEMs, which they're doing at the moment is already implemented. What I presented then is that with the work in 5GAA on automatic valet parking, we already worked on functional safe system where a system outside of the vehicle controls the vehicle. So there is a certification for that, there's a standard for that. And now what we have to do is to leverage this learning for new use cases also including of course
Guy Daniels, TelecomTV (05:00):
5G as you said there. We have to leverage that learning. Now what do we telecoms industry, the mobility industry, the automotive industry, what do we need to do collectively to achieve our aims?
Andreas Schaller, Bosch (05:14):
So from an OEM perspective, I'm only the tier one, but OEM perspective always likes to scale. So it's always difficult if there is solution in country A by provider C, and it doesn't work in the next country. So it's important to scale. So if a solution is there, the network feature should be there in all countries. That's very important. This is because otherwise our solutions will always fail because people will say, oh Bosch, you have a nice solution, it only works in Germany. They will never implement it. So network features has to be there
Guy Daniels, TelecomTV (05:51):
Globally. Andreas, let's hope the industry heeds your advice there and we see a lot of progress in this sector. Very exciting. Thanks for talking with us today. Thank you very much.
Joining me now is Andreas Schaller who is head of V2X technology strategy at Bosch Mobility. Andreas, thank you very much for talking with TelecomTV. Can I start by asking you about the role of Bosch within the connected mobility sector?
Andreas Schaller, Bosch (00:21):
So as a global Tier one, Bosch is also active in connectivity as its cinematic units, but of course it's also services for fleets and for passenger cars. So it's a wide fuel of different software, hardware and service activity.
Guy Daniels, TelecomTV (00:41):
And can I ask about your role with 5Gaa? How important is the work that 5GAA does and how does it align with your objectives?
Andreas Schaller, Bosch (00:49):
I mean, we joined 5GAA in 2017 and it's an important thing for tier one is they would like to get to sell common solution to different OEMs now to widen the market. So you would like to somehow increase your market share and though it's important that we generate this common roadmap that we get a little bit of a agreement between the OEM on the technologies they would like to use. And this is the reason why I'm also heading with BMW and Volkswagen, the awoke map activities because the interest is really to focus on the use cases and the technology. We need for the future.
Guy Daniels, TelecomTV (01:36):
Now 5G is still in its infancy really in terms of deployments and the specification work. There's more to come with 5G, but where 5G is today, what does it offer for the connected mobility sector? What solutions are possible today?
Andreas Schaller, Bosch (01:53):
So as you just said, so the standardization is done for consumer devices and it's always a little bit faster. So at the moment, if you look at the vehicles worldwide, they all are based on 3GPP release 15. So first standardization of 5G. So this is broadband scenarios. So you use it for entertainment, you use it for TV operations, you use it for automatic valet parking for example. You use it for support of AD level three, parking by maps update. These are typically example, we use it at the moment.
Guy Daniels, TelecomTV (02:35):
And as the 3GPP and other associations work through advancing the specifications, we get more specifications included in 5G. Let's look ahead maybe five years or so. What sort of solutions are going to be possible then in this sector?
Andreas Schaller, Bosch (02:52):
So as I said, we are now at Release 15 is implemented, Release 16 is actually why we are here at this event. So with 5G-V2X the first chip sets, now we are showing the capabilities of 5G-V2X with Release 16. So Release 17 and 18 then will be dedicated to non-terrestrial network support. So this is something which is getting speed up very quickly. At the moment we see many announcement of different satellite players. So in the automotive industry this will come with Release 17 and 18. And then finally you have Release 19 to sum 5G up before 6G restart.
Guy Daniels, TelecomTV (03:41):
Now you spoke today at the event here in Berlin on a panel that was looking at how you leverage 5G-V2X to enable new advanced services and solutions. What was the consensus there? What's your advice? How can we achieve our aims here?
Andreas Schaller, Bosch (03:58):
Yeah, so what I had in the panel, I had to talk about V2X and ADAS and what I did is I started with Euro Ncap and I said that there were different categories like safe driving, supporting information to the driver, increasing awareness of the driver, and finally sending warnings to the driver that the vehicle takes an action. So maybe it breaks. So that's a far future. But the first information and awareness is really what we saw today by different OEMs, which they're doing at the moment is already implemented. What I presented then is that with the work in 5GAA on automatic valet parking, we already worked on functional safe system where a system outside of the vehicle controls the vehicle. So there is a certification for that, there's a standard for that. And now what we have to do is to leverage this learning for new use cases also including of course
Guy Daniels, TelecomTV (05:00):
5G as you said there. We have to leverage that learning. Now what do we telecoms industry, the mobility industry, the automotive industry, what do we need to do collectively to achieve our aims?
Andreas Schaller, Bosch (05:14):
So from an OEM perspective, I'm only the tier one, but OEM perspective always likes to scale. So it's always difficult if there is solution in country A by provider C, and it doesn't work in the next country. So it's important to scale. So if a solution is there, the network feature should be there in all countries. That's very important. This is because otherwise our solutions will always fail because people will say, oh Bosch, you have a nice solution, it only works in Germany. They will never implement it. So network features has to be there
Guy Daniels, TelecomTV (05:51):
Globally. Andreas, let's hope the industry heeds your advice there and we see a lot of progress in this sector. Very exciting. Thanks for talking with us today. Thank you very much.
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Andreas Schaller, Head V2X Technology Strategy, Bosch Mobility
Andreas Schaller discusses the role of Bosch Mobility in the connected mobility sector and the importance of 5GAA in aligning industry objectives. He highlights current 5G applications in automotive, such as entertainment and automated parking, and explains what advancements we can expect to see with future 5G releases from 3GPP, including non-terrestrial network support. He also calls for scalable solutions that will work globally to ensure successful implementation, and reiterates the need for continuing collaboration between the telecom and automotive industries if we are to achieve fully autonomous driving.
Recorded October 2024
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